Comments on: Ubuntu with a K http://techhaze.com/2010/05/ubuntu-with-a-k/ From our screens to yours - Tech news and reviews Tue, 26 Apr 2011 06:32:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Jonthue M http://techhaze.com/2010/05/ubuntu-with-a-k/comment-page-1/#comment-27531 Jonthue M Sat, 04 Dec 2010 04:27:55 +0000 http://techhaze.com/?p=3020#comment-27531 If Unbuntu go with KDE, with unbuntu stability and simplicity it would worked users, but one way or another alot would need to change with KDE because I'm sure not alot of ppl would like the Windows Look A Like Start menu etc etc... Unbuntu can make KDE back on the number one list but it would take a great deal of sacrifice. I for one would not convert because every time i look at that thing i feel like i am back to windows, yes GNOME lack power options to greatly extend the way we want with our OS to that great Amusement Park, but for a price its different then the rest and it work well under pressure. It would be great if Unbuntu did come to KDE But it would be greater if both KDE and GNOME come together. If Unbuntu go with KDE, with unbuntu stability and simplicity it would worked users, but one way or another alot would need to change with KDE because I'm sure not alot of ppl would like the Windows Look A Like Start menu etc etc… Unbuntu can make KDE back on the number one list but it would take a great deal of sacrifice. I for one would not convert because every time i look at that thing i feel like i am back to windows, yes GNOME lack power options to greatly extend the way we want with our OS to that great Amusement Park, but for a price its different then the rest and it work well under pressure. It would be great if Unbuntu did come to KDE But it would be greater if both KDE and GNOME come together.

]]> By: chillshock http://techhaze.com/2010/05/ubuntu-with-a-k/comment-page-1/#comment-15923 chillshock Sun, 10 Oct 2010 16:22:56 +0000 http://techhaze.com/?p=3020#comment-15923 I am sorry, but everytime I see the designchoices made in KDE I get less enthusiastic about it. I used to think it's great. But then realized some really bad flaws: * One single process for Panel, Desktop, Widgets, Folderviews, and a whole bunch of plasmoids... that can take scripts that you wouldn't even enable in your browser. Even the Run-Application Dialog is attached to this! So once it hangs, thats it. It's just unreliable. * It is slow. Really slow. Sometimes it feels ok. But I tell you: switch to a gnome desktop on the same machine with all compositing enabled and you will notice a HUGE difference. * Akonadi... Honestly... NO! Maybe in a couple of years, ok... when it's stable, works, doesn't crash and in general doesn't behave like word6 on win3.5! * Singleton Konsole: kill one, kill all... I don't even need to say why this is BAD. * ressorces: KDE just hogs them. It's amazing what a few tiny daemons and applets can cost you. It might be pretty, but so can gnome. There is absolutely no way that "shinyness" is justifying crash-prone, crammed together, unflexible waste of ressources. -- Give me a KDE without javascript, with seperate processes for: panels, desktop, folder-browsing, app-starter and widgets and WITHOUT AKONADI and I'm getting interested again. Also performance should get slightly better. I am sorry, but everytime I see the designchoices made in KDE I get less enthusiastic about it. I used to think it’s great. But then realized some really bad flaws:

* One single process for Panel, Desktop, Widgets, Folderviews, and a whole bunch of plasmoids… that can take scripts that you wouldn’t even enable in your browser. Even the Run-Application Dialog is attached to this! So once it hangs, thats it. It’s just unreliable.

* It is slow. Really slow. Sometimes it feels ok. But I tell you: switch to a gnome desktop on the same machine with all compositing enabled and you will notice a HUGE difference.

* Akonadi… Honestly… NO! Maybe in a couple of years, ok… when it’s stable, works, doesn’t crash and in general doesn’t behave like word6 on win3.5!

* Singleton Konsole: kill one, kill all… I don’t even need to say why this is BAD.

* ressorces: KDE just hogs them. It’s amazing what a few tiny daemons and applets can cost you.

It might be pretty, but so can gnome. There is absolutely no way that “shinyness” is justifying crash-prone, crammed together, unflexible waste of ressources.

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Give me a KDE without javascript, with seperate processes for: panels, desktop, folder-browsing, app-starter and widgets and WITHOUT AKONADI and I’m getting interested again. Also performance should get slightly better.

]]> By: ich http://techhaze.com/2010/05/ubuntu-with-a-k/comment-page-1/#comment-12147 ich Tue, 14 Sep 2010 23:55:18 +0000 http://techhaze.com/?p=3020#comment-12147 This is ridiculous. I've been using KDE since 3.0, now I'm doing my entire work and entertainment with 4.5.1, and I basically love it. But KDE as a default for an uninitiated user? Sorry, but you gotta be kidding. I've got seriously pain-tested users who are happy to experiment and are interested in innovation, switching away from KDE (to Gnome) after five years because of bad performance, hilarious bugs (like the unmounting without actually unmounting -- very funny with FAT32 USB disks...) and serious usability issues. You can't even compare KDE and Gnome. Gnome aims to be a production safe desktop environment. I can't even begin to numer the regressions in current KDE software. KDE is a playing ground for people who want to live on the bleeding edge of GUI philosophy and can spare so many hours a weak for loving their desktop environment. You can't throw this stuff at a secretary who doesn't know where her head's at after answering 200 phone calls while organizing 10 people's schedule in parallel. This is ridiculous. I've been using KDE since 3.0, now I'm doing my entire work and entertainment with 4.5.1, and I basically love it. But KDE as a default for an uninitiated user? Sorry, but you gotta be kidding. I've got seriously pain-tested users who are happy to experiment and are interested in innovation, switching away from KDE (to Gnome) after five years because of bad performance, hilarious bugs (like the unmounting without actually unmounting — very funny with FAT32 USB disks…) and serious usability issues. You can't even compare KDE and Gnome. Gnome aims to be a production safe desktop environment. I can't even begin to numer the regressions in current KDE software. KDE is a playing ground for people who want to live on the bleeding edge of GUI philosophy and can spare so many hours a weak for loving their desktop environment. You can't throw this stuff at a secretary who doesn't know where her head's at after answering 200 phone calls while organizing 10 people's schedule in parallel.

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